Himeros Hotel - Adult Adrift Adventure 1.04

[boyo111]

You are right about the look command. Not sure but during my tests I have had problems with look not triggering events that trigger on entering a location. Not sure why. Still learning adrift.
Mentioned the above for players that might try going to a location and wait an hour...then wait another hour...and nothing happens. Since they have to look or enter to trigger the event.

The delivery events are a bit tricky. Most are set to arrive after a certain time and if the event can be done early in the morning it will show up the same day. No harm done.

I haven't used Adrift since 3.0 but it is all in how you trigger the events,most were either timed or were upon movement into the location. I don't think that you can have an event trigger when the wait until command is used. I did trigger a few with look, I'm used to how it works so it wasn't a big deal for me, but I agree with you here, I think you are limited by how it works.

I saw the same with the delivery events, I was told it would be tomorrow but in the next turn or two I was in reception or the employee room and saw the same thing, the delivery happened. Unless you have some sort of date counter I don't think there is much you can do with that, not sure Adrift even offers something like that. Or you'd have to write one. But it would be worth doing, since you already track the days in the bottom info bar, maybe its a variable you can use to determine when the delivery should at least not happen, not on same day. Unless your delivery service is just that good.

[Seztworks]

Alright. That makes sense.
I will look into making that step Adrift proof.
Since I had very little Adrift experience before starting coding I am not following the "normal" way to implement stuff.
All the items that you have to place in your room use the same keyword and in all cases I noted that keyword in the event text.
As in..."I should place the toolbox in my room before moving on."

I am going back and adding stuff that people expect if they make sense.

I also hate the "guess the verb" problem. There is a pretty large gap between veteran and new adrift players on that front.
The veterans expect certain commands because earlier games have used those. New players don't expect anything and might not even know those commands.
I aim for the new players as I am one as well. So if you read the text you should always know what to do.
Without having to know anything about Adrift or "normal" game implementation.

Edit: Regarding your post above.
I don't use any timing based triggers as Adrifts timing system don't match my hour/clock implementation.
I could add checks for deliveries and might still do that. It does not break anything as is, but would be nice from a immersion standpoint.

[jerenyg]

In a way you are absolutly right. You write "place the toolbox in your room..." we should use "place".

But you forget about our years of playing ADRIFT games, personnally when I read "place the toolbox in your room" I understand that I need to use the common ADRIFT command "place the toolbox on desk"
For everything I used the "put" command, I put the laptop/tome on desk, I even put the groceries in fridge. And these commands work good. But it not work with the toolbox.
I think that a lot of users who will not read all these pages and find your game in a few months or even in a few years will have trouble with this. The new ADRIFT player will use the "place" command but the old ADRIFT player will expect the "put" command.

the problem now it's that some "put" commands work and some doesn't. I read that I need to place the groceries in fridge. I write "put the groceries in fridge" because my years of experience tell me to use the "put" command. It work. Then after I read that I need to place the laptop in my room, so I "put laptop on desk" again it work. So at this point when I saw place I was sure than the command "put x on/in y" work. Again with the tome it work. But with the toolbox it not work. But I never question the "put" command. I was sure the "put" command worked at this point. So I search others things to do, I asked all people about rats, I try to fix holes, and a lot of other things. Nothing help of course.

You can't have one command to work in some cases, and not work in other cases. Either force users to use "place", write in the help that the "put" command doesn't work and disable it. Or you allow users to use "place" and "put".

[Seztworks]

You are right.

There is no reason why both solutions shouldn't work and they will from the next patch.
To be honest I did not know that the basic adrift method worked in all the other cases. The difference this time was that I did not check if the item was there in the next event and so it stopped for a lot of you. I checked if you had done the placement task.
Since Adrifts built in function places the item in the same way but does not use my custom command (even if put xx on xx was part of the command list every time).
This also means that when the veterans used the put command they did not get the info that I embedded into my placement command. Like hints for the next step. That part I cannot change so if you go "rogue" and use basic commands you might miss a hint, but I will make sure the game doesn't break.

It is fixed and I learned a lesson.

[Seztworks]

Hello het2000
Thank you for the kind words.
Lets see what I can do for you.

Pretty far. Different stuff to do.
Laras path needs you to get the broken quipment fixed. You should get an event to request this.
Morgans path should have an event in the kitchen sometime in the evening.

Hope that helps.

[khaaleth]

Hi, great game !!

but i have problem with Angela - i had event in studio, then i can't figure out what next

Second question - where i can find this tome ? I have finished Gem, Taylor, Lara, Daisy patches

[Seztworks]

@hen2000

Saves should have nothing to do with it.
You should get an event with Celeste asking you to pay the bill from the club. This happens in the employee lounge when she is there.
Try using "pay bill" command when Celeste is near. You might have missed the event.
If these does not make sense. What is the last thing you did with Lara?
Morgans event does not happen until you had sex with Taylor.

@khaaleth

You should get an event with Angela in the club in the evening.
You have to ask scruffy about your uncle to get the tome.

[Seztworks]

Can you remember if you have fixed the club equipment?
What does Celeste say if you try to "pay bill"?

[Seztworks]

Ok. The error message confuses me but if you have fixed the equipment you should have an event in the club at 20 o'clock.

[syramore]

I don't think I saw a message that I was at the ending of Gem or not or Angela -

I think I have to be getting close to all of it though:
L:5856171891058

[Seztworks]

Hiya syramore
You are close ish
It does look like your L: is missing a digit...I think.

You are done with Gem and Lara.
If you have had sex with Taylor you should have an event in the kitchen in the evening.

That is best guess given the lacking digit.

[Hoodlum]

My save at L:2755171101853 gives me a Tool Click error and doesn't let me load the game. I don't know why this happens, I just thought you ought to know. It also happens with the previous save I created at an earlier point in the game, although I'm not sure when exactly.

[Seztworks]

Ohh. Doesn't sound good.
I haven't had any other people giving error feedback.
Does it mention any conflict or something that you can decipher?
I take it you are using the newest patch version?

The most important question. Is you original save from before 0.25?

[Hoodlum]

I am using the version 0.40b, and the entire playthrough has been in this version. The stack trace produced by the error seems to show there is a problem with ADRIFT.frmRunner.DoToolClick(String sKey, String sCaption, String sTag) as the error message event is fired straight after that is loaded. Oh and apparently a given key was not present in the dictionary. Whatever that means.

Nonetheless, the game is pretty damn good! Keep it up

[Skelaturi]

I am using the version 0.40b, and the entire playthrough has been in this version. The stack trace produced by the error seems to show there is a problem with ADRIFT.frmRunner.DoToolClick(String sKey, String sCaption, String sTag) as the error message event is fired straight after that is loaded. Oh and apparently a given key was not present in the dictionary. Whatever that means.

Nonetheless, the game is pretty damn good! Keep it up

Same key thing here, i got that problem with saves as well, but the game still loads for me.

a. start up game
b. load save
c. See the Keydown error
d. See that the mini map has appeared, so just go to a room and continue playing.

I got no idea what the keydown error is, and even had a adrift forum post suggesting i should change my windows locale. Never changed but for me it is somehow fixed with my latest save