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Re: a question

Postby ExLibris » Mon, 12Jun11 10:56

kessie8yl wrote:As far as getting to the "star prize" is concerned you don't have to do any major re-writing to set up any special conditions or add loads of variables, etc... No taking her out to certain bars, buying the right thing at the store, wearing the right colour underwear, etc - Just complete the final mission and she's there, wanting to show our hero how grateful she is [img]images/icones/icon13.gif[/img]


I can think of a couple of games where this approach was taken and the result was that the final scene, where the PC finally gets the girl, fell flat. The problem is that the author has never demonstrated why the PC (and by extension the player) wants the girl. All the author has done is told the player that he's supposed to want the girl, which is insufficient to arouse the interest of most players (although they will of course still play the game to the end). "Show, don't tell" may be a cliche, but it applies here.

I've written about this subject at length elsewhere, so I'll restrict myself to echoing TheBrain. If you're going to base a game around a "star prize" she needs to be on stage, she needs to be interactive, and those interactions need to have sexual overtones. Without those things, what should be the grand finale is going to feel like just another throwaway scene with no build up.
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Re: a question

Postby kessie8yl » Mon, 12Jun11 15:47

ExLibris wrote:
kessie8yl wrote:As far as getting to the "star prize" is concerned you don't have to do any major re-writing to set up any special conditions or add loads of variables, etc... No taking her out to certain bars, buying the right thing at the store, wearing the right colour underwear, etc - Just complete the final mission and she's there, wanting to show our hero how grateful she is [img]images/icones/icon13.gif[/img]


I can think of a couple of games where this approach was taken and the result was that the final scene, where the PC finally gets the girl, fell flat. The problem is that the author has never demonstrated why the PC (and by extension the player) wants the girl. All the author has done is told the player that he's supposed to want the girl, which is insufficient to arouse the interest of most players (although they will of course still play the game to the end). "Show, don't tell" may be a cliche, but it applies here.

I've written about this subject at length elsewhere, so I'll restrict myself to echoing TheBrain. If you're going to base a game around a "star prize" she needs to be on stage, she needs to be interactive, and those interactions need to have sexual overtones. Without those things, what should be the grand finale is going to feel like just another throwaway scene with no build up.


I think you've taken me far too literally...

If you read the original question it is clear that the main object of the game being planned is NOT to screw any lust object - I light-heartedly suggested this possibility as an add-on to keep lagooners playing beyond the incidental sex scene in the middle of the game.
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Re: a question

Postby TheBrain » Mon, 12Jun11 15:54

I think our point was that if a sex scene is just added at the end without any build up, it will have very little value.
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Re: a question

Postby realkane » Mon, 12Jun11 22:12

First of all, thank you so much for creating "Peril" Lamont...

I Don't think you realise how good this game is, i can only hope it will inspire other people to make these kind of adventure games with loads of steamy sex scenes.
For me personally i must admit that i love to play these games but to be honest without a good amount of teen orientated sex i would probably skip it.
The reason for me to play these games is because they are heavily adult themed.

I like it when the sex is on the edge, teens or teens with adults, film/movie taping/role playing/games like spin the bottle (!), i even like the incest and young teen themed goblinboy games a lot. And the adding of 3d pics is an absolute plus for me, i love those.
But most importantly it had to be well written, and i love the side tracks in a game, be there at a specific time and smething totally unexpected happens like ms johnson/farmgirl in your own game.

So for me the game needs to be heavily adult orientated, can't be raunchy enough, there are already enough boring games and rules out there.
That's my opinion on the matter, thx again for this great game that has cost me a lot of sleep the last couple of days..... ;) you hero you...
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Re: a question

Postby kessie8yl » Tue, 12Jun12 16:25

TheBrain wrote:I think our point was that if a sex scene is just added at the end without any build up, it will have very little value.


Value? Who said anything about value? I'm pretty sure it wasn't me... :lol:

The original question was "If a game is more of a traditional adventure game with only a small amount of sex would it still interest you?"

The obvious answer is a resounding "Yes", an imaginative plot and the playability of the game are more important than the amount of sexual content, but it shouldn't come as a great surprise to anyone to find a great many lagooners seem mostly interested in undressed females and the possibilities they present.

A glance at most other posts shows there are people who aren't content with just playing games (often fairly crappy ones at that) once but have to find every possible sex scene. A few can't even be bothered to pretend they are playing the games at all - within five minutes of a game being posted there's always someone asking for a walk-through.

Well I am sorry that you can't find any humour in suggesting that if Lamont's worried about the attention span of the average lagooner he could easily get around the problem by adding a gratuitous sex scene at the end to keep them happy. Having said that, I'm sure the makers of so many James Bond movies can't all be wrong either... I suppose he could always have this gorgeous creature popping in and out of the game then have the game end without the hero managing to shag her if that makes you happier? :sarcastic:

Can everyone please just remember to pack their sense of humour next time they visit the lagoon? This is suppose to be fun..... Isn't it?

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Re: a question

Postby ExLibris » Tue, 12Jun12 20:53

kessie8yl wrote:
TheBrain wrote:I think our point was that if a sex scene is just added at the end without any build up, it will have very little value.


Value? Who said anything about value? I'm pretty sure it wasn't me... :lol:

The original question was "If a game is more of a traditional adventure game with only a small amount of sex would it still interest you?"

The obvious answer is a resounding "Yes"


I think the answer both TheBrain and I found to be the most obvious was "Yes, but it won't be *as* interesting if the sex scenes don't get any build up. I'm sorry if we failed to grasp that you were attempting to be humourous, but we were just offering our opinions so there's no need to get bent out of shape over it.
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Re: a question

Postby kessie8yl » Fri, 12Jun15 15:30

ExLibris wrote: there's no need to get bent out of shape over it.


From the tone of your responses I'd say I was trying to put things back into shape... I'll say it again:- This is supposed to be fun!

Even if you take my suggestion literally you have still missed the point that the final sex scene was never intended to be the object of the game.

Basically what you and TheBrain are saying is that you'd prefer the exact same game without a sex scene on the end. That's easy. You just stop playing once the bad guys been given his come-uppance to avoid any disappointment. Perhaps a "Gratuitous sex scene" warning could be inserted in advance? [img]images/icones/icon14.gif[/img]

What a lot of fuss over nothing.

Over & out.
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Re: a question

Postby Greebo » Fri, 12Jun15 15:52

Am I misunderstanding everyone here? I was under the impression that a suggestion was being put forward not that the sex scene should be removed but that there should be a build up to it. Not having played the game in question yet, I am obviously ignorant of the way the scene is managed.
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Re: a question

Postby ExLibris » Fri, 12Jun15 16:24

kessie8yl wrote:Basically what you and TheBrain are saying is that you'd prefer the exact same game without a sex scene on the end.


Uh, no. That's not what I'm saying, and I don't believe it's what TheBrain is saying either.

I'll state this once more, on the off chance this is a genuine misunderstanding. My personal opinion is that a sex scene is more enjoyable if it receives buildup throughout the game.
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Re: a question

Postby LRM » Fri, 12Jun15 19:37

The chase is as big a turn on as the act. Both are great! But a piece of ass, without working to get it, is less satisfying.
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Re: a question

Postby kessie8yl » Fri, 12Jun15 19:49

LRM wrote:The chase is as big a turn on as the act. Both are great! But a piece of ass, without working to get it, is less satisfying.


No arguement there... If you read my previous comments you'll see the whole thing was aimed (tongue in cheek) at a certain type of lagoon visitor (as opposed to dweller)...
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Re: a question

Postby slagus » Fri, 12Jun15 22:49

I am glad this question was asked because I was wondering the same thing myself. I recently started my first game and since it is more an adventure game with sex scenes I was worried it would not be welcomed in the lagoon.
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Re: a question

Postby LRM » Sat, 12Jun16 01:38

Ask someone's opinion and you need be ready for the answer.
I possess little tact, but some are down right harsh IMO.
Just be warned and GL with your project.
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Re: a question

Postby Dolphin-BR » Tue, 12Jun19 05:11

Basically I like 3 kinds of games:
- Strategy games like "Civilization"
- Sport games like "Fifa Manager"
and of course, Erotic games. If the game is in this section "All Sexy Games" I expect it to have a great amount of erotic content. And if this erotic content is well inserted in the game story, like in Goblinboy's "School Dreams", even better!

I give one example as how a well written story can attract even those who normally wouldn't like it.
In the game "Gifts of Phallius 3" by Goblinboy, there is an event with a nymph girl called Asha. I think it was the most erotic scene of the game because it was well written.
I'd say that my fetish would be "the coming of age", girls who are awakening for sex. The mix of innocence and lust. I cannot think of something more arousing than that. But Incest has no appeal to me. And both factors were present in Asha's scene.

So, if it is well written, even if has little adult content I believe lagooners would still play it.
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