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Re: next game?

Postby Squeeky » Wed, 15Dec02 03:05

Respectueusement votre commentaire a été noté.
De même que respecter:
1. Pourquoi devrais-Shark rapport quand il n'y a rien à dire?
2. abonnements Priv-Box ne subventionnent le bail de ce serveur particulier, pas un revenu de requin dans l'avenir.

Respectfully your comment has been noted.
Similarly respect that:
1. Why should Shark report when there is nothing to tell?
2. Priv-Box subscriptions only subsidise the lease of that particular server, not Shark's income into the future.
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Re: next game?

Postby Stev-23 » Wed, 15Dec02 07:50

Dear Shark, maybe you could post a final picture on twitter, would be very very nice [img]images/icones/icon13.gif[/img]
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Re: next game?

Postby shark » Wed, 15Dec02 07:51

Vous me reprochez de ne pas donner de nouvelles du jeu sur twitter...
C'est vrai que je pourrais faire comme tout le monde et passer des heures sur les réseaux sociaux. J'aimerais aussi pouvoir jouer tous les jeux qui sont proposés sur ce forum parce que moi aussi je suis fan... Mais dès que j'ai un moment, je travaille sur le projet en cours parce que j'avais dans l'idée de sortir le jeu pour noël, même si je me rends compte que les jours passent et que ça risque d'être impossible.

Bien sûr, je sais que quand on joue un de mes jeux, il est difficile d'imaginer le travail que ça représente: 700 à 800 images à modéliser, retoucher, découper et compresser pour que le fichier soit exploitable, mais bon, je m'éclate en le faisant et c'est le principal.
Alors, vous voulez des nouvelles? Ok : J'ai encore au moins deux scènes à faire et, à raison d'une semaine de boulot environ par scènes, le jeu passera surement en "post production" d'ici la fin décembre. Après, il y aura les traducs, sons, aides, etc. à intégrer... donc, le jeu sortira certainement début janvier mais quand, je suis incapable de le dire.

Didou: quand tu parles de "politique commerciale et de communication", ça me fait bander! j'ai l'impression de diriger une start-up dans la silicone valley! Malheureusement, au risque de te décevoir, le "siège de mon entreprise" se résume à un pc, un bureau un peu branlant et un fauteuil pourri qui me fait mal au cul quand j'y passe plus d'une heure, le tout installé dans un coin de ma chambre.

Alors, je comprends que certains soient impatients et ça me fait vachement plaisir car ça prouve que j'arrive encore à faire des jeux intéressants, mais soyez cool, les mecs, et essayez d'imaginer le boulot que ça représente. ( au passage, j'en profite pour remercier une nouvelle fois tous ceux qui me donnent un coup de main).
Et pour la priv box, c'est comme pour un nouveau film : tu peux aller le voir au ciné le jour de sa sortie ou attendre un peu et le regarder chez toi gratuitement. Difficile de faire mieux...
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Re: next game?

Postby Squeeky » Wed, 15Dec02 08:33

Using an online translator one often finds ambiguity. Sometimes one has to attempt a guess about the context.
For those who would like an English version of Shark's above reply I offer this, and I see nothing ambiguous or need for guessing (it was translated online):
You blame me for not giving news about the game on twitter...
It's true that I could do like everyone else and spend hours on social networks. I would also like to play all the games that are offered on this forum because I too am a fan ... But as soon as I have a moment, I work on the current project because I had the idea to release the game for Christmas, although I realize that the days pass and it may not be possible.

Of course, I know that when you play one of my games, it is difficult to imagine the work it represents: 700-800 pictures to model, edit, cut and compress for the file to be exploitable, but hey, I m 'broke doing it and that's the main thing.
So you want news? Ok: I have at least another two scenes to do and, on a one week job by approximately scenes, the game probably will switch to "post production" by the end of December. After, there will be translations, sounds, help, etc. to integrate .. so the game will certainly be released in early January but when? I am unable to say.

Didou: When you speak of "trade policy and communication", I have a hard-on! I feel like I was running a start-up in Silicon Valley!
Unfortunately, at the risk of disappointing you, the "seat of my business" amounts to a pc, a somewhat rickety desk and a rotten chair that hurts my ass when I spend over an hour, all installed in a corner of my room.

So I understand that some are impatient and it makes me really happy because it proves that I can still make interesting games, but be cool, guys, and try to imagine the job that represents. (By the way, I want to thank again all those who give me a hand).
And for the priv-box, it's like a new movie: you can go and see it to the movies on the day of its release or wait a bit and watch it in your house for free. Hard to beat ...
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Re: next game?

Postby shark » Wed, 15Dec02 10:48

Thank you squeeky, just corrected a word or two to clarify my thought.
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Re: next game?

Postby paquito » Wed, 15Dec02 11:13

Thanks for the news!

Vous savez les gars, un jeu tous les quatre mois (en moyenne), c'est plus qu'honorable.... Ne soyez pas trop pressés, le prochain jeu sortira bien assez tôt.
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Re: next game?

Postby Mimailia » Wed, 15Dec02 11:28

shark wrote:Thank you squeeky, just corrected a word or two to clarify my thought.


Shark, please just live your life and ignore all this crap. YOU have built a wonderful community here, with games coming from many directions. It has always been my experience - the more you give, the more some people DEMAND.

At times like this, look at how many lagooners there are, and realize how many of us wait quietly with GREAT appreciation for all you have given.

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Re: next game?

Postby didou » Wed, 15Dec02 12:59

Shark, je sais le travaille que cela représente, je suis développeur de jeu 3D WebGL avec javascript avancée. Après je comprend bien que un pc pas tres puissant, un siège qui fait mal au cul ralenti beaucoup le travaille.
Je ne vous dit pas de faire des news sur twitter, je suis pas tres reseau social aussi au passage, je n'y passe donc pas mon temps, je parle de faire une annonce sur le forum ponctuellement qui prend 10 minute 1 fois par mois pour dire vos avancées, même si les nouvelles ne sont pas si bonne comme vous le dite là, mais cela permet de savoir.
Mais bien sur, vous faites comme vous voulez, ce n’est que une suggestion.

Bonne continuation.
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Re: next game?

Postby Solid Snake » Thu, 15Dec03 11:16

Souvenez vous des Grands Auteurs : "Patience et Longueur de Temps font plus que Force ni que Rage." ( Lafontaine, "Le Lion et Le Rat")
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Re: next game?

Postby Solid Snake » Thu, 15Dec03 11:45

Maitre Sharks, permettez moi humblement de voler à votre secours.

A ceux qui souhaitent des jeux plus souvent disponibles, posez vous cette seule question :

Voulez-vous que Maitre Sharks sorte un jeu tous les trois jours ( Il pourrait le faire, comme certains développeurs plus 'officiels' ) affublé de tous les bugs, défauts, longueurs, répétitions et autres malheurs possibles

ou bien

Préférez-vous que Maitre Sharks nous distille un bon jeu tous les 3-4 mois ( son rythme actuel ) avec des innovations tant gameplay que scénaristiques, des beaux graphismes, une histoire recherchée, ... bref un bon jeu ? ...

Comme le dit une publicité pour produits alimentaires, "Les Bonnes Choses prennent du Temps".
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Re: next game?

Postby LRM » Thu, 15Dec03 12:40

I think the truth is as more people demand his product he becomes less stimulated to produce it.
Before the Priv-Box, residents were grateful when he released a game. Now many residents think they have unlimited access to him. That he is at their beck and call. The more this attitude prevails the less motivation he has. I fear we may see the Lagoon swan song. It'll be authored by these impatient contributors!!!
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Re: next game?

Postby Greyelf » Fri, 15Dec04 00:23

LRM wrote:I think the truth is as more people demand his product he becomes less stimulated to produce it.
Before the Priv-Box, residents were grateful when he released a game. Now many residents think they have unlimited access to him. That he is at their beck and call. The more this attitude prevails the less motivation he has. I fear we may see the Lagoon swan song. It'll be authored by these impatient contributors!!!
LRM

If this does happen it would be a true sadness, especially for those that do wait patiently instead of chirping like hungry baby birds insisting to be fed.
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Re: next game?

Postby didou » Fri, 15Dec04 01:14

Greyelf wrote:If this does happen it would be a true sadness, especially for those that do wait patiently instead of chirping like hungry baby birds insisting to be fed.


I do not think that making suggestions is what you say. There is so much expression to define the name of people from different animals. it is poetic.
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Re: next game?

Postby LRM » Fri, 15Dec04 01:25

For the record...
Before this game was started, all the Moderators heard Shark was done, he'd authored his last game!
For whatever reason he changed his stance. Keep pushing and you won't have to consider whether or not to continue your contribution.
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Re: next game?

Postby xstay-truex » Fri, 15Dec04 01:34

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