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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Greebo » Tue, 16Aug09 22:29

Skelaturi wrote:don't forget Romeo and Juliet are underage .


Not in Shakespeare’s time! It's a cultural thing.
Even Jerry Lee Lewis's first marriage was deemed acceptable in his home state I believe, and she was 14 at the time if I remember correctly -- at least Romeo and Juliet did not have close consanguinity.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby PinkVendeta » Wed, 16Aug10 01:57

Greebo wrote:
Skelaturi wrote:don't forget Romeo and Juliet are underage .


Not in Shakespeare’s time! It's a cultural thing.
Even Jerry Lee Lewis's first marriage was deemed acceptable in his home state I believe, and she was 14 at the time if I remember correctly -- at least Romeo and Juliet did not have close consanguinity.

She was 13 at the time and was his cousin once removed, and both members of the public in Britain and the USA lambasted him for it, he went from earning $10,000 a night to not being able to earn $100 a night, so people did care that he was 22 and she was 13 at the time they married and factor in the cousin part and it is into incest in some form.

https://medium.com/cuepoint/ballad-of-the-13-year-old-bride-f909cbe1c6b4#.xvvoghy0z

You should read it all, as his then wife and child bride Myra has made some very good points in it and my heart breaks for her in reality.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby muttdoggy » Wed, 16Aug10 05:04

A relative of mine (I won't say who because it may be traced back to me in real life) knew both Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra. Though their connections they also knew Jerry Lee Lewis and his friends from their performances in Las Vegas and throughout the Southern part of America. I was told by my relative that they thought Jerry Lee Lewis was certifiably insane even though he was a very good performer who frequently hung out with Elvis, Johnny Cash and Chuck Berry. They even commented on how Jerry Lee Lewis had a lot of talent and knew all the right people and could have been one of the brightest stars in the late 50s through the 60s BUT when it was found out on his trip to England that he'd married a 13 year old second cousin, he suddenly became something like a pariah. Even though the marriage may have been legal (some sources say because of her age, it wasn't), it still put a lid on his career and doomed him. They said if he hadn't married her, they'd be playing with him.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby PinkVendeta » Wed, 16Aug10 14:01

It is funny really the double standard, he does that and gets lambasted for it, and yet Elvis met Priscilla when she was only 14 and married her when she was 16, so another child bride, but because no one was a cousin of anyone, the world did not care or seemed to not care about the age gap.

http://priscilla.elvispresley.com.au/
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Paladox » Sun, 16Sep18 07:10

Even in The Bible there are examples of incest (Lot's daughters getting him drunk and then..).

I think it appeals to people in fantasy settings because it is so taboo. In our personal lives I'm sure most of us would be like, "Ew.. ew no! No I don't even want to think of that!"

It's pretty much unthinkable. Even in Game of Thrones it just seems rather nasty.
It's different for a game with 3D or 2D characters, because they aren't very realistic so it desensitizes us to it, so then we begin to think, "That's kinda hot!"

As for myself when I play a hentai/porn game it doesn't really matter to me if it's incest or not. It's sex, and if it's sex that I normally would find hot then it doesn't matter if it's incest or not.
Hot kinky sex is hot kinky sex. I'd much rather watch incestuous hentai coitus than actual porn.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Mortze » Sun, 16Sep18 16:57

Paladox wrote:I think it appeals to people in fantasy settings because it is so taboo. In our personal lives I'm sure most of us would be like, "Ew.. ew no! No I don't even want to think of that!"

I'm positive that any psychanalist would be glad to develop that statement. I'm no professional on the matter but I think that our most primitive behaviours (like sexual impusles) are tied to that irrational part of our mind, deep down there, away from our logical processes. Thing is, when you think rationally, meaning within the boundaries of any order process we acquired with society, for instance, you would consider incest "Eww...no!".
But when reduced to your primitive impulses that limitation vanishes. It's almost like "Society tells me not to, but that makes it even more appealing to the beast inside me!"
This is a crude simplification, perhaps even erroneous, because I don't have any psychanalist skills. [img]images/icones/icon17.gif[/img]
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Paladox » Sun, 16Sep18 22:15

Mortze wrote:This is a crude simplification, perhaps even erroneous, because I don't have any psychanalist skills. [img]images/icones/icon17.gif[/img]

I'm not a psychologist either but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. [img]images/icones/icon13.gif[/img]


(actually I didn't but I had to make that joke [img]images/icones/icon17.gif[/img] )
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Joe.Pizza » Tue, 16Sep20 05:43

Paladox wrote:Even in The Bible there are examples of incest (Lot's daughters getting him drunk and then..).


I didn't think I would see a Biblical reference on this forum. With Lot, getting his daughters pregnant was the last act of his string of failures. The result was the older daughter giving birth to Moab, while the younger daughter giving birth to Ammon. Both spawns were the father of nations that would Israel heartburn for many generations
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby lath » Wed, 16Sep21 16:19

An amateurish opinion:


You're missing the "hot" adjective, as in "hot cousin/sister/brother/father/mother/uncle/aunt/etc". How many people would be interested in incestuous activity with the ugly, fat, stinky, sweaty, creepy, crazy, asshole of a relative? Not enough to have a market.

He/she is hot, forbidden and approachable. For the ever increasing in number people with various degrees in social anxiety, not having to bear the public humiliation of a rejection from a complete stranger in a sea of complete strangers a.k.a. society (where they have majority vote), that relative that knows them since young is a beacon of hope, a person they can trust, an easily obtained safety net. Also, they are hot. Did i mention hot?

It's also a dare, a secret, a feat, an achievement, an ego trip. "I did what others didn't or couldn't! I reached a place few others have! I am better than my peers! I banged my ____(insert relative here)!"
Man or woman, the thought of being superior to others is something engraved within us and defines us as individuals. As long as there is an 'i' in 'team', there will be conflict and there will be a desire to surpass, in any way possible.

Back to it being taboo, rebels at heart are more likely to pursue the subject as well. Because it is against the law, frowned upon in society, despised by the majority, fought against by morals and ethics and generally unlikable, it almost becomes a compulsion to pursue it just to fulfill that need to piss people off.

Which brings us to this point: the power trip. We are animals, no doubt about it. We strive to better ourselves, but remnants of our ancient past remain to this day within our genes. Why am i bringing this up? Well, as you see in some of the recent incest games, the protagonist sees himself as used and abused by his relatives and looks to turn the tides, usually by blackmail, drugs or brute force.
This type of game resonates with the type of person who see themselves as overworked, exploited slaves under the iron rule of their relatives.
To take charge and assert themselves as the dominant pillar of the house is a way to relieve stress and avoid a mental breakdown due to the weakening of their ego.

There are reasons and causes for a favorable opinion towards incest, some are good, some are bad, some are needed, some are a pile of shit, but the desire in itself does not appear without a trigger, of any kind.

The best bet of combating this trend would be to reduce the effects of social awkwardness. If less people hide behind a keyboard and more meet others who can accept them and themselves as they are, the need for incest and a few other fetishes will lessen due to lack of time to worry about it.

Edit:

A short quote from a novel i'm reading that i momentarily feel explains many... desires we humans have:

No one had ever managed to corrupt an angel. The same was true in my previous life. It was a myth. My heart jumped quickly. I wanted to try corrupting an angel.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby PSeeker » Wed, 16Sep28 10:29

I would love an incest (not step-something crap) from LOP or SexandGlory :D

between siblings or hot mother with son(yummy!).
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Greebo » Wed, 16Sep28 16:09

PSeeker wrote:I would love an incest (not step-something crap) from LOP or SexandGlory :D

between siblings or hot mother with son(yummy!).


WHY, you sick motherfucker?
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Sallow » Thu, 16Sep29 10:51

I don't see why it's such a big deal.
If two adults want to engage in consensual intercourse within the privacy of their own home, why should we stop them, who are we to judge, even if they are related.
And in this case we're not even talking about people who want's to have sex with a family member in real life, we're talking about people who enjoy a fantasy.
The reason why people play games with incest is probably because it's the ultimate taboo, something most people might not experience in real life and most likely don't even want to, just because a person is interested in something within the worlds of gaming and other medias does not mean that it's something they would ever consider doing, if that was the case we would have a lot of psychopaths with guns running around (more than we already do).
And for the few people that actually wants to have sexual relations with a family member, as I said in the beginning, as long as it's consensual and all participants are adult, I really don't see the problem.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Sarchx » Thu, 16Oct06 20:40

It's just a temporary phase, it will pass.

Like fashion changes, so does overall themes of porn.
You had a time with handjobs being the biggest and a time with; schoolgirls, teachers, milfs, cougars, squirting, etc. etc.

I don't believe there is a deeper meaning, or that it's a tendency of specific people that suddenly makes it mainstream - it just evolves, since people get fed up of watching variations of the same thing/theme, over and over.
You will always have someone pushing the limits (hence the word taboo), and once in a while - something catches on even though people considered it extreme / off limits, a short time earlier.

Shortly they'll be onto..... something else. Whether it's working girls, sugardaddy's, or if they go all the way back to the start of porn with feature films again, who knows. But something will replace it.

When it comes to the topic itself, I think everyone has their own opinions, and you'll never get concensus.
Just keep in mind that this is fictional pornmovies and/or games. There is no link to real life behavior included in either.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby Slayer991 » Sat, 16Oct08 07:37

LJames713 wrote:I'd never been even remotely interested in playing games or watching films, wherein Incest is shown as a "positive" thing to engage.

However, I'm starting to think that I may be in the minority, insofar as that is concerned.

What do you guys think are the underlying, social factors forcing that to the forefront as a "winsome fetish"...?


Because it's a safe outlet for a fantasy. I'll be honest, my sister is 2 years younger than I am and she was cute when we were growing up (now we're both in our late 40's). Did I think about nailing my sister? Yeah, I'm a dude and she was a looker when we were in high school...but it was immediately followed by, "Eww, gross..WTF are you thinking!"

So yeah, brother-sister incest games are fun and interesting to me because I can play out something in a game I haven't or wouldn't do in real life.

By the same token, I played Grand Theft Auto and shot cops, had sex with hookers then robbed them, etc. Safe outlet for doing something outrageous that is totally contrary to my character in real life.
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Re: Why so much incest in gaming/porn?

Postby gunderson » Sat, 16Oct08 14:33

At the most basic level, because it's fiction and a fantasy.

Rhetorical question: are most/all of your fantasies about your current significant other engaging in exactly the same sexual activities you normally do? For the vast majority, of course not. It's not much of a fantasy if it's totally ordinary.

Most fantasies, I'd imagine, are about things that you would enjoy happening in the moment but are either difficult, impossible, costly, or a bad idea.

A very tame example: you like blowjobs but your wife hates giving them. So you fantasize about your wife enthusiastically giving you a great blowjob. You get some of the fun of the blowjob experience without having to go through the hassle of actually negotiating for one.

In the general case, sex with an attractive new sexual partner is always going to be interesting on some level, especially if all risks can be mitigated. So let's say that you imagine having an attractive relative, maybe a sister.

Devoid of its social, reproductive, presumed psychological, etc. repercussions, incestuous sex is physically identical to vanilla sex. So if you like blowjobs, an incestuous blowjob will feel just like a regular one. If you like anal, incestuous anal will feel just like regular anal. Again, specifically in the moment and disregarding all the consequences.

The nice thing, as well as the dangerous thing (if you're so unbalanced as to be fundamentally unable to tell the difference between fantasy and reality) about fantasies is that they don't possess the same consequences as actually engaging in such actions in real life. So the incest fetish as it plays out in a fantasy can be exactly about enjoying a sexual act with a new (presumably attractive to you) partner who you have been arbitrarily informed you may not have sex with. The act's real-world consequences don't have to enter into the fantasy because real-world consequences are largely irrelevant to a fantasy (though they may inform it).

Is it rebellious? Sure. Is it commonly frowned upon? Seems that way. But your fantasies are your own, and I can't see a reason to intervene in that one unless a peson starts trying to act it out in real life. At that point, then it makes sense to me to discuss the real world repercussions of their real actions.
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