Amitiés - Clavardages et autres...

[Gib]

"L'homme propose et la femme dispose." Je ne sais pas qui a dit ça le premier, mais, ça s'applique encore de nos jours.

[Arnulf]

Boys, let go the philosophy about women! Fact is, that either our "petit sirene" is making her jokes about all the Cloé-writers and does not at all waste only one single thaught to give anything from her side (except tons of kisses, which cost her nothing ). Woman or not woman, in the present atmosphere of chatting she should show a minimum of goodwill . Or she is not able to meet her promise (because she is ugly, no female or something else - That's Internet risk), Shark had provided a technically easy way for her to give a picture (by e-mail), which should completely remain within her decision what kind of picture it should be, - from fully wrapped in her winter coat with cap and shawl dark eye-glasses etc., up to a fully pornographic one - but doing nothing at all in this concern except a charming "hihihihihi..." is a real disqualification in my opinion . As far as I could get from her profile, she is exactly 19 days younger than my younger son and I know well the mentality of the kids, so I do not believe, that Cloé does all that motivated by a real flirting purpose. She enjoys solely our helpless interest in her. (as I mentioned above: "Sie hält alle am Schmäh!")

[Gib]

Arnulf, I get aggressivity from your last post. The truth of the matter is, Cloé doesn't owe anything to anybody. You have to respect that and accept it. A picture on the internet is always a risky venture, you never know where it will end up and for what use. And it is not as if you could take it back, once in the control is lost. If you don't like the light tone of these post you have the option of not participating. And by the way, my last bit of philosophy points exactly towards how I feel toward freedom of choice, a man can propose something and a woman has the privilege of accepting or refusing. The woman has more power in these situations but I would not remove her right to refuse. To do so would, in my opinion, make women second-class citizen and slaves to men, like in many countries they still are, unfortunetly.

[Arnulf]

Gib, in principle you are right, we always are pleased to accept the special postion of the female beings. But this privilege should be not consumed to excess. I agree fully with you, that it is a certain risk to put a pic in the internet (That's why you cannot see there any picture showing me - besides the fact, that nobody would be interested in such one), but then you should also be careful with promises. Charming treatment of women is not unknown for me (you should keep in mind for what the Viennese are famous), but i wanted to express, that considering all, there should be a limit.

[luke]

Arnulf wrote : She enjoys solely our helpless interest in her.

Yes... but if it's our pleasure, where is the problem
We also could have a lot of fun in this forum, and even an open madness
Sometimes, it's good to let go oneself

[Lucaboo2]

I agree with both Arnulf and Luke at 50% each...
Me, I was the first saying that didn't matter to me if Cloè was a Lingerie model, a 90 kg housewife or even a hairy truck driver.
Here in the Lagoon she choose to be Cloè, a teasing French girl, and nothing else matters. Ok.
It is true. But is true as well that, when you play a game, you have to play the field following the rules. It means that IF Cloè told everybody she was going to delight our eyes with a pic of herself (even one of the Baptism or of the First Communion ) THEN Cloè should have sent it.
It's a game? Ok, let's go on playing.
Do you feel unsafe? Do you feel not so gorgeous? Do you feel like a pretty girl but you are a little bit... manly? Well, it's not me the one who has to teach you where to get a pic, huh?
Bisous @ Cloè

[Gib]

Lucaboo2 wrote : I agree with both Arnulf and Luke at 50% each...

Bon, je suis encore laissé en dehors de la discussion!

[Cloé]

peace and love please !!!!!

[Arnulf]

Hah.......Gib, you had one of the main positiosn in the preceding discussion, up to the moment, as I put in my opinions. And now, you declare being outside. Well, you have learned very quickly from our beloved Cloè (If you not be a male or I being a gay , I'd send you my "bisous"!)

Stay on top, warrior!

That is, why I love this forum. Each one shall say his meaning, but nobody shall take it too serious. The best example is our friend Lucaboo2. My special compliments to him!

[Arnulf]

Hi, Cloé, dream of my sleepless nights! Congratulations to the Predator! As everybody can see, our little discourse hac it,s help for your upgrading!

[luke]

@Arnulf
The subtlety of french language : Gib didn't declare being outside the discussion, he said that the discussion continue without him.

@All
I carefully re-read the beginning of the story of this damned picture, and i think we all have to apologize to Cloé.
First, Cloé said that the forum being so hot, that she envies to undress herself
Second, another member asked her to send the pic. That wasn't Cloé that suggested it !!!
Third, Cloé asked if that will please the boys.
And that was the beginning of the loss of control...

But... Cloé, if you want to please us, send this pic...
NOOOOO. I'm kidding Just make as you want

[Arnulf]

Luke: as to Gib's statement, where is there a difference in the outcome?
However, the French language has really many traps for poor tlanslating-tryers. I always have my fun , when i compare the English translation with the German one. In the most cases, he English version is better, but then (and this is the most of fun) the translations differ completely and when I'm lucky, both versions result no understandeable content. "French Rules!" ( But to be understood seems not to be the primary aim of this language )

[Arnulf]

Cloé, I heard from Luke ( what should we do without his correctness?!) that you never gave a promise and therefore you never could break the same!

Now I am deeply cought in my bad behaviour. Hopefully, you can forgive me some day.

[Cloé]

from Cloé.......

[Lucaboo2]

luke wrote : Third, Cloé asked if that will please the boys.
And that was the beginning of the loss of control...

Not so sure, Luke... Talking about me, I lost every control looooooooong ago!