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Re: Dream Master

Postby Nightshade09 » Sun, 18Jan07 13:18

Beautiful descriptive writing piece!

But with a little continuity error with Dreaming with Elsa.

Elsa states in DwE that the Morphus book came into the possession of her great great great great grandfather. Not grand mother like in Dream Master. :)
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Re: Dream Master

Postby L1nk1980 » Sun, 18Jan07 13:49

Nightshade09 wrote:Beautiful descriptive writing piece!

But with a little continuity error with Dreaming with Elsa.

Elsa states in DwE that the Morphus book came into the possession of her great great great great grandfather. Not grand mother like in Dream Master. :)


I think her grand father left it when he left her grand mother after the one night stand, explain also why Paul she her in his x-vision glow and the rest not
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Re: Dream Master

Postby Brocho » Sun, 18Jan07 13:53

Nightshade09 wrote:Beautiful descriptive writing piece!

But with a little continuity error with Dreaming with Elsa.

Elsa states in DwE that the Morphus book came into the possession of her great great great great grandfather. Not grand mother like in Dream Master. :)


I suspect it's not a continuity error. It either refers to Troi himself, one of his ancestors, or a descandant born as a result of the story. I don't know how many generations ago the story is set.
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Re: Dream Master

Postby tlaero » Sun, 18Jan07 19:57

Mary couldn't use the book. Her son, on the other hand, could...

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Re: Dream Master

Postby bishop083 » Wed, 18Jan24 05:35

Of the publicly released short stories, (as of the time of this posting, at least) I think this is my favorite short story. Your DwE stories are nice, but this one was special.

The only one I've liked more than this is Beginnings. Getting that origin story was totally worth being a patron, and that wasn't even why I did it.
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Re: Dream Master

Postby ShadyGroves » Wed, 18Jan24 06:36

Would have loved to see a confrontation between Elsa and Xara since Xara basically killed Elsa's direct ancestor. Then popped into the future to work with Elsa.
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Re: Dream Master

Postby Brocho » Wed, 18Jan24 13:21

ShadyGroves wrote:Would have loved to see a confrontation between Elsa and Xara since Xara basically killed Elsa's direct ancestor. Then popped into the future to work with Elsa.

I don't see how Elsa could even know about that, so Xara would have to tell her first, and Xara wouldn't see any reason to do so.
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Re: Dream Master

Postby L1nk1980 » Wed, 18Jan24 13:41

Brocho wrote:
ShadyGroves wrote:Would have loved to see a confrontation between Elsa and Xara since Xara basically killed Elsa's direct ancestor. Then popped into the future to work with Elsa.

I don't see how Elsa could even know about that, so Xara would have to tell her first, and Xara wouldn't see any reason to do so.


well that's quit simple

Xara angels know that Xara is not telling everythin to them, Mortland just have to whisper in Elsa ear that Xara kill her grandfather. Elsa confront Xara with it when Theresa is with her and she will know the truth.


but I really don't know why you want to split the group. this story is finished and now whey move to a whole new chapter
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Re: Dream Master

Postby Mortze » Wed, 18Jan24 15:40

I doubt a feud between Elsa and Xara would be realistic or even logical.
Elsa has no emotional connection to her great-great-great-great-grandfather and, with the other Angel's help, she'll quickly realize that Xara has her hearth in the right place.
If Xara says that Elsa's ancestor was a criminal in her society's laws and her job was to track him and bring him to justice, Theresa will see that Xara believes in that, and no one will condone her.
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Re: Dream Master

Postby ShadyGroves » Wed, 18Jan24 19:01

[quote="L1nk1980"

but I really don't know why you want to split the group. this story is finished and now whey move to a whole new chapter[/quote]


The story may be finished for now yet there are still a lot of plot holes. Where the story can continue at a future date.

Such as.

Morland's portal was being kept open on the other side by Morland's friends in the other realm. So basically Xara brought Morland and Crow directly into her enemies hands.

Charles got away and Charles according to Chloe is 'His Fathers Son' So Charles is Morland II.

Xara gave strong hints of a possible return.

What happened to Morland's extensive organization. An how did Chloe end up with the Casino and Estate. As seen in the credits. I don't think Morland left it to her in his will? Why is Jan Chloe's new body guard also seen in the credits if you look closely. :)

What happened to the potential Mayoral Candidate that Morland and Crow has just poisoned and attempted to turn into a puppet candidate.

Morland and Crow were in our realm apparently twenty five plus years. Long enough to marry, have Charles and Chloe and establish a underworld empire. What was he doing all that time? With advanced alien technology and knowledge in a whole new world to conquer. Twiddling his thumbs waiting for Xara at his desk? Btw Xara appears only to have been in our realm one year. So where was she in the between years?

The Portal had been operating over twenty five years and in that time was giving humans Powers on this side. Jessica, Theresa, Miranda, Paul. So there are more out there and not all of them will be using it for good purposes.


Yes there are a lot of unanswered questions and plot holes to continue the story. Hopefully some day M & T will.

I suspect though the Darkness Falls story CSI meets the X-Files. Might touch upon them indirectly.
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Re: Dream Master

Postby JFR » Wed, 18Jan24 19:43

ShadyGroves wrote:...
Morland's portal was being kept open on the other side by Morland's friends in the other realm. So basically Xara brought Morland and Crow directly into her enemies hands.
...

...

At least part of this is nonsense.
Xara was sent through the portal by Axis in pursuit of the criminal Morland. She will take him back to face justice, not back into the hands of his "friends."


Why don't you guys, at least some of whom apparently don't pledge a dime, just leave Tlaero (and Mortze, can't forget him) to write the stories she wants and stop trying to "improve" things for her? The vast majority of her fans are extremely happy with her work and eagerly await the next installment. She has not disappointed us yet. Do you even have a clue how disheartening some of this BS can be?

All this nit-picking and nattering has become very tiresome indeed. :sarcastic:
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Re: Dream Master

Postby moskys » Wed, 18Jan24 20:39

JFR wrote:
ShadyGroves wrote:...
Morland's portal was being kept open on the other side by Morland's friends in the other realm. So basically Xara brought Morland and Crow directly into her enemies hands.
...

...

At least part of this is nonsense.
Xara was sent through the portal by Axis in pursuit of the criminal Morland. She will take him back to face justice, not back into the hands of his "friends."




Well, this point was already discussed on the SC thread. Shady is right, Xara uses Morland's alies' portal, but according to Tlaero's word we can trust her to deal with any potential enemies he may find when arriving at her realm (which is not entirely under her enemies control yet, so she'll bring Morland and Crow to justice).

Re other questions raised by Shady
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Morland and Crow were in our realm apparently twenty five plus years. Long enough to marry, have Charles and Chloe and establish a underworld empire. What was he doing all that time? With advanced alien technology and knowledge in a whole new world to conquer. Twiddling his thumbs waiting for Xara at his desk? Btw Xara appears only to have been in our realm one year. So where was she in the between years?
I recall Tlaero explaining this too. You shouldn't forget that time moves slower in Morland and Xara's realm. Xara has been in our world for one year but came here just about a month later than Morland according to their worldtime. There are not 'between years', at least not for her. And Morland came here with absolutely nothing in his hands but his power. He enjoys the journey and he's aging soooo slowly here that he can take his time to become Emperor of Earth. In 30 years time he's gone from zero to local tycoon, he's already rigging local elections and no doubt he has higher expectations... but ultimately he couldn't achieve his goals because of Chloe (mainly), Xara et al.


I guess the rest of your questions will be answered (partially, at least) in Darkness Falls. That's actually the point of that game, if I'm not wrong
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Re: Dream Master

Postby L1nk1980 » Thu, 18Jan25 02:49

Why don't you guys, at least some of whom apparently don't pledge a dime, just leave Tlaero (and Mortze, can't forget him) to write the stories she wants and stop trying to "improve" things for her? The vast majority of her fans are extremely happy with her work and eagerly await the next installment. She has not disappointed us yet. Do you even have a clue how disheartening some of this BS can be?

All this nit-picking and nattering has become very tiresome indeed. :sarcastic:[/quote]

I agree, Tlaero story's hasn't disappointed it since GtkC and I'm glad they do a new game around Christine. but I think we just discuss what can happen. And Mortze is right to tell me that Elsa can see the good nature of Xara and that's it. not to control of ask for things from them

but Tlaero write herself that sometimes some of the partons/fans put an idea she like and use it in her games. or the feedback of a game give her an idea to do the next game different.

and I say it in other posts. I play Tora games because of the great story Tlaero write all the time. with the renders of Mortze they make the greatest games there are

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Re: Dream Master

Postby ShadyGroves » Thu, 18Jan25 03:21

It's not nonsense. Instead they are valid points.

Its not like M & T will be visiting the orignal story arc anytime soon.

Still there are plenty of story holes left from which to continue the story at a later date.


JFR wrote:
ShadyGroves wrote:...
Morland's portal was being kept open on the other side by Morland's friends in the other realm. So basically Xara brought Morland and Crow directly into her enemies hands.
...

...

At least part of this is nonsense.
Xara was sent through the portal by Axis in pursuit of the criminal Morland. She will take him back to face justice, not back into the hands of his "friends."


Why don't you guys, at least some of whom apparently don't pledge a dime, just leave Tlaero (and Mortze, can't forget him) to write the stories she wants and stop trying to "improve" things for her? The vast majority of her fans are extremely happy with her work and eagerly await the next installment. She has not disappointed us yet. Do you even have a clue how disheartening some of this BS can be?

All this nit-picking and nattering has become very tiresome indeed. :sarcastic:
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Re: Dream Master

Postby ShadyGroves » Thu, 18Jan25 03:26

Yep that's very true.

Xara just walked into the heart of Morland's allies camp carrying Morland and Crow which were keeping the Portal Open on his behest. As an escape if needed from our realm.
Xara delivered Morland and Crow to freedom.


Do go back and read the dialogue of Chloe and Paul







moskys wrote:
JFR wrote:
ShadyGroves wrote:...
Morland's portal was being kept open on the other side by Morland's friends in the other realm. So basically Xara brought Morland and Crow directly into her enemies hands.
...

...

At least part of this is nonsense.
Xara was sent through the portal by Axis in pursuit of the criminal Morland. She will take him back to face justice, not back into the hands of his "friends."




Well, this point was already discussed on the SC thread. Shady is right, Xara uses Morland's alies' portal, but according to Tlaero's word we can trust her to deal with any potential enemies he may find when arriving at her realm (which is not entirely under her enemies control yet, so she'll bring Morland and Crow to justice).

Re other questions raised by Shady
ShadyGroves
Morland and Crow were in our realm apparently twenty five plus years. Long enough to marry, have Charles and Chloe and establish a underworld empire. What was he doing all that time? With advanced alien technology and knowledge in a whole new world to conquer. Twiddling his thumbs waiting for Xara at his desk? Btw Xara appears only to have been in our realm one year. So where was she in the between years?
I recall Tlaero explaining this too. You shouldn't forget that time moves slower in Morland and Xara's realm. Xara has been in our world for one year but came here just about a month later than Morland according to their worldtime. There are not 'between years', at least not for her. And Morland came here with absolutely nothing in his hands but his power. He enjoys the journey and he's aging soooo slowly here that he can take his time to become Emperor of Earth. In 30 years time he's gone from zero to local tycoon, he's already rigging local elections and no doubt he has higher expectations... but ultimately he couldn't achieve his goals because of Chloe (mainly), Xara et al.


I guess the rest of your questions will be answered (partially, at least) in Darkness Falls. That's actually the point of that game, if I'm not wrong
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