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Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug06 00:15
by Rikwar
Wtf since when does
ILSWriter need permission from
Graen
ILSWriter wrote:
I would be happy to explain why I have included the two kids in this story
So please do as Im sure it wasn't meant to be in bad faith
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Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug06 01:57
by Werehunter
Just a small note. After checking out School Dreams 3, I was curious and did a bit of research. The best I can tell animate pictures depicting characters under the age of 18 engaging in sex is not legally considered child porn in the US unless it's considered obscene or ultra realistic. After more research the best I could find is that obscene in this case is considered rape.
I don't completely agree with it but it's the best I could find.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug06 02:52
by Graen
Rikwar wrote:Wtf since when does
ILSWriter need permission from
Graen ![sarcastic :sarcastic:](./images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I think she wanted permission from
Green.
Posting images of models under the age of 18 years old is still forbidden here. That's
Shark's rule, not mine. If she wants to explain why she feels the need to include naked children in her adult games, well... I can't very well stop her from expressing her opinion.
That said...
I would be wary of stirring the waters.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug06 10:19
by Rikwar
Graen wrote:Rikwar wrote:Wtf since when does
ILSWriter need permission from
Graen ![sarcastic :sarcastic:](./images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I think she wanted permission from
Green.
Sorry
Graen if I got your name mixed up with
Green whoever that is
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Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug06 16:11
by Greebo
Oh for God's sake stop playing silly buggers -- everyone who knows the context of the recent exchange also knows she meant Graen even if she misspelt the name. She was only trying to establish what was allowable in her graphics fic when the furore started, and I can't say that shark has really enlightened us with anything other than an unsatisfactory bald statement of his ruling on "under 18" depictions of fic characters, and yet he bends his own rules as I have mentioned earlier.
I seem to remember him indicating that BDSM is more a squick than a kink as far as he is concerned, and yet he has been thoroughly involved in the Desire and Submission games which seem to go beyond what would normally be allowed in the BDSM community, with coercion and a lack of "safewords"
As I see it the main objection to the picture ILSWriter linked to from my point of view and that of many others is that she showed little children in a scene in which others were caressing in an overtly sexual way. If you look at her fic at the time I am posting this, you will not find that scene, and there is nothing I would consider untoward in what I have seen so far even though a young girl appears in the story. (I haven't checked all the forks though.)
Just because young children and animals appear in a story that has sexual content doesn't mean that child abuse/pornography or bestiality is going on.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sun, 11Aug07 00:05
by LRM
Alright everyone it is time this stops! Shark is taking undue and IMO undeserved heat. IT IS his site. THEY ARE his rules.
I recently crossed a line where I wanted to restrict who could post links here (apologies once more to 3 of you) to protect him. He pulled me back and said I was being to restrictive.
IMO the D&S series was more in response to what a large number of members said they wanted and not necessarily where Shark wanted to go.
I raise a glass containing my favorite beverage in honor of Shark, and ask you join me. I think he routinely puts what he would prefer secondary to your perceived desires and requests. Once in a while he takes a firm stand (as do we all) and for some unknown reason gets unduly chastised.
Ms Jane has since her first posting gotten as near the boundary as she possibly could. This posting crosses a line the host of this forum does not care to cross. Case closed! It is time to stop giving the host hell. No one is holding a weapon to the head of ANYONE, if your disagreement is so intense we will miss your input here.
Lou
Get off his back!!!
This could have been handled discreetly rather than building a bonfire in the midst of the Lagoon. IMO it should have been. I fault Ms Jane for the mishandling.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sun, 11Aug07 22:19
by ILSWriter
Well, there have been about 30 messages in the previous three pages discussing my latest story. Four of you want me to take Angie and Joey out of the story. Guess what? Four of their friends have joined them. Now there are six of those little guys running around. What could I do? That body painting contest has been advertised for weeks. Those kids would have killed me if I hadn't let them participate. Some of you have been pressing for a reason why there are little kids in this love story. That's the reason, I'm too young to die. They are happy now and I doubt you will see much more of them.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug13 19:04
by dolerhyde7
I've just discovered your stories.Very impressive,very...stimulating.I will be reading/watching more. Very well done!
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug13 21:48
by ILSWriter
![Image](http://www.imgjoe.com/x/party10.jpg)
Becky (the girl on the left) is celebrating her birthday at a nudist resort and is trying to decide which of the other three to take a walk with. Can you help? I'm still looking for beta testers if you are interested email me at
jane@illustratedlovestories.com.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug13 22:20
by dolerhyde7
I would be honoured to contribute, but first I'll need to familiarise myself with more of your work. And I can't really comment on the picture because I don't know what led up to that scene, and I don't know any of the characters or their motivations. Beautiful artwork though.
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sat, 11Aug13 23:09
by LRM
@ ILSWriter:
I am not certain this should be hosted here. Have you asked Shark's permission? I think it a good idea BEFORE (not to subtle hint) you mention it here again!!!
Lou
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sun, 11Aug14 00:23
by ILSWriter
I think it a good idea BEFORE (not to subtle hint) you mention it here again!!!
LRM you guys are too cryptic for me. Why is it you all beat around the bush? Come straight out and tell me what you want. What is the "it" you are referring to?
Re: Illustrated Love Stories
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Sun, 11Aug14 01:32
by Greebo
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I must say he's got me puzzled too!
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Plain and Simple
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Sun, 11Aug14 07:39
by LRM
DO NOT come here and solicit help, post veiled comments about, or make any further mention of your latest project without written permission by Shark!!! Failure to comply with this will cause loss of your ability to post here and the likely destruction of your thread!!!
Clear enough???
Lou
Thread Locked until compliance with above directive!